People are now rushing to pressure the C of E House of Bishops, by Facebook petition, to rescind their guidance.
I am sorry that the bishops of our neighbouring province have chosen to uphold what they understand to be the current religious rules rather than be guided by compassion and justice, but I do not think that I want future decisions in any Anglican Church to be resolved by Facebook petition.
In the Diocesan Human Sexuality Group we have developed a process of listening with respect to people with whom we profoundly disagree. The group includes both people currently in civil partnerships and people who on grounds of biblical authority or church tradition find same sex marriage unacceptable but we are learning to listen to each other and each other's pain. Perhaps more of this needs to happen in a wider arena.
It is also worth noting that we are the Church in Wales and some of the issues under debate are on the next Governing Body's agenda. The GB may agree or disagree with the Church in England.
A recent survey of clergy by the Human Sexuality Group received a high level of response.
- 80% of respondents would affirm same sex partnerships
- 67% are willing for the CinW to allow for the blessing of same sex partnerships
- 62% would permit an approved CinW blessing to take place in their parish and would be willing to preside.
- Conversely, those firmly against are 14%, 19%, 20%, 23%, less than a quarter.
I think it is safe to conclude that there is
strong support from clergy in the Diocese of St. Asaph for the CinW to approve a service of blessing for same sex civil
partnerships.
More respondents
opposed the provision of a CinW marriage service for same sex couples than were
for it although those against same sex marriage never reached 50% in response to any of the
questions asked.
I think we can conclude that there is not,
at this point in time, sufficient support amongst clergy for the CinW
to provide a marriage ceremony for same sex couples.
More respondents
were willing to affirm same sex secular marriage than were not, which may
reflect the fact that this is a done deal in the secular arena.
Let's now continue the conversation in the Church in Wales which listens to each other's wisdom and pain bound together in love in the Body of Christ.
Let us remember that each other we meet is made in God's image and likeness however different from us they may seem to be in lifestyle and outlook. Let us resolve to treat each other with compassion and justice recognising that this may, or may not, reach the same conclusions as arguments based primarily on human rights which come from a different thought tradition.
Let Facebook be used for communicating information, sharing good causes and information about injustice, and for friendly banter but let's recognise that it is not at its best as a chamber for debating serious issues.
Mike While I am grateful for your stating publicly your views on the full inclusion and acceptance of LGBT people in the Church in Wales - most clergy seem to be staying shy of getting involved, if attendance at the Human Sexuality Discussion Group is anything to go by - you know from our discussions at the HS Group that my conclusions are different from yours. I believe it is time right now for the Church to accept, bless, and preside over the civil partnerships and marriages of LGBT people.
ReplyDeleteHow is this change in the church's teaching on the issue going to come about? You seem to suggest that, if it happens, this will be through a combination of continued dialogue and the general consensus of the majority. I and others in Changing Attitude Cymru disagree. It will come about, in my view, by people like us in Changing Attitude continuing to make the case to those who have the power to make the changes (bishops, Governing Body, but also parish clergy) that the reasons that the church gives for "no change" are not only inadequate and arguable, but just not the Good News of Jesus Christ. Change will come about when those who have the power to bring about change take action, and believe and make it known that it is right to do so.
Continued listening and discussing, as on the HS group, and as the Pilling Report advocates, has its uses, in learning how to live together in love and respect with brothers and sisters we profoundly disagree with, but I have no delusions that will bring about change.
However, there are gospel imperatives which take precedence over learning to have respect for others' views as well as over obedience to our bishops.
We are making a case for change because of certain higher imperatives:
(1) imperative of mission, in a cultural context that sees the church's own ethics as scandalous,
(2) imperative of solidarity with and support for LGBT people, who are victims of inequality and marginalisation,
(3 )imperative of conscience (argued and acted on),
(4) imperative of pastoral need at the local level,
(5) imperative of urgency, in light of the recent CinW Review.
These are all gospel imperatives.
Aidan Coleman, convenor of Changing Attitude Cymru has just posted a fuller explanation of these 5 imperatives on - wait for it! - our Facebook page at
https://www.facebook.com/ChangingAttitudeCymru
Regards,
Mike Jones